Dunbar Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 02/04/2024 at 15:19, Exiled Wiganer said: I was only making things up to continue the debate in my previous post - and I thought there were enough clues that it wasn’t entirely serious - but happy to make something else up Expand ok, understood. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled Wiganer Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 02/04/2024 at 15:27, Dunbar said: ok, understood. Expand The WDL never sleeps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 02/04/2024 at 13:31, JohnM said: Makes no difference. If the panel said base 10, 2+2 =4 , there would still be those armchair judges who would disagree . Expand I’ve enough experience in the game to know what is illegal John, however, we do not even know if this incident was reviewed. It could well be that this tackle (btw could be ligaments, operation and months out) wasn’t even considered due to ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 02/04/2024 at 12:35, Dunbar said: Has Dupree not been completely vindicated by the disciplinary panel then? Expand Dupree's action has been scorned upon and been against the rules for a very very long time, the other guy fud nothing wrong against the rules of the game, try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 02/04/2024 at 17:21, Harry Stottle said: Dupree's action has been scorned upon and been against the rules for a very very long time, the other guy fud nothing wrong against the rules of the game, try again. Expand Sorry, I don't understand, bracing for a tackle has been scorned upon and been against the rules for a very very long time? "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 02/04/2024 at 16:51, Lowdesert said: I’ve enough experience in the game to know what is illegal John, however, we do not even know if this incident was reviewed. It could well be that this tackle (btw could be ligaments, operation and months out) wasn’t even considered due to ignorance. Expand That’s been the key missing link for this season. However the game’s outstanding and intrepid journalists will no doubt have been digging around for the last 5-6 weeks and things will change imminently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 02/04/2024 at 18:22, LeeF said: That’s been the key missing link for this season. However the game’s outstanding and intrepid journalists will no doubt have been digging around for the last 5-6 weeks and things will change imminently. Expand Would seem a shame if the Panel have either no report from the Ref or deign to look into an event where one of France’s future stars gets sidelined for months. Do we have any intrepid journalists Lee? From what I can see, there are few that venture very far away from Twitter/X or the Moles channel 9 reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilla Budgie Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Wigan Warriors prop Tyler Dupree will miss their ‘Battle of the Borough’ at Leigh Leopards having been unsuccessful in his appeal against the one-match ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 02/04/2024 at 19:28, Zilla Budgie said: Wigan Warriors prop Tyler Dupree will miss their ‘Battle of the Borough’ at Leigh Leopards having been unsuccessful in his appeal against the one-match ban. Expand He appealed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 02/04/2024 at 19:22, Lowdesert said: Would seem a shame if the Panel have either no report from the Ref or deign to look into an event where one of France’s future stars gets sidelined for months. Do we have any intrepid journalists Lee? From what I can see, there are few that venture very far away from Twitter/X or the Moles channel 9 reports. Expand Tongue firmly in my cheek with intrepid journalists. John Davidson aside, who has done an excellent job with the Featherstone issues, the others are way too friendly and don’t ask anything like a difficult question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 4 matches for Bryne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M j M Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Cameron Smith grading reduced from B to A on appeal so he won't now be banned for a game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HullWire Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 02/04/2024 at 20:52, M j M said: Cameron Smith grading reduced from B to A on appeal so he won't now be banned for a game. Expand Seems the right result 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiggins Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 02/04/2024 at 20:55, HullWire said: Seems the right result Expand I’d say £250 fine for that is still harsh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilla Budgie Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 02/04/2024 at 21:08, phiggins said: I’d say £250 fine for that is still harsh. Expand The RFL need the cash.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 02/04/2024 at 09:46, Chrispmartha said: For reference this is the Cam Smith incident which wasn’t even a penalty in game. It’s a ridiculously soft 1 match ban Expand That is truly unbelievable They had full access to this video and can watch it again again yet still think that is a ban Hilarious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my missus Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 so byrne ends up with a 4 game ban for what most fans think wasn't a sending off and dupree gets nothing for what should of been a red card Through the fish-eyed lens of tear stained eyes I can barely define the shape of this moment in time(roger waters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 02/04/2024 at 22:07, my missus said: so byrne ends up with a 4 game ban for what most fans think wasn't a sending off and dupree gets nothing for what should of been a red card Expand No, Dupree gets a 1 match ban. Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheVee Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 On 02/04/2024 at 22:30, Futtocks said: No, Dupree gets a 1 match ban. Expand For a different incident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 On 02/04/2024 at 22:07, my missus said: so byrne ends up with a 4 game ban for what most fans think wasn't a sending off Expand Most Wigan fans maybe, most other fans believe it was a nailed on sending off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north yorks trinity Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 On 02/04/2024 at 20:55, HullWire said: Seems the right result Expand Yep, no ban for no offense is the right result. Not sure about the grade A charge for no offense though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalMrC Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 To be honest I'm sick and tired of the meltdown over disciplinary every week. Time to make it a blanket 5 game suspension for sending off. Remove the discretion from the process then maybe we wouldn't have people crying every week . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 On 03/04/2024 at 08:26, OriginalMrC said: To be honest I'm sick and tired of the meltdown over disciplinary every week. Time to make it a blanket 5 game suspension for sending off. Remove the discretion from the process then maybe we wouldn't have people crying every week . Expand Red cards aren't really the main talking points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiggins Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 On 03/04/2024 at 08:26, OriginalMrC said: To be honest I'm sick and tired of the meltdown over disciplinary every week. Time to make it a blanket 5 game suspension for sending off. Remove the discretion from the process then maybe we wouldn't have people crying every week . Expand Not all disagreements are a meltdown. The system itself is overcomplicated, but when you add somebody willing to look at the Cam Smith incident and decide that it is worth a ban, it makes things even worse. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Willow Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 How hard can it be to communicate though? A simple list of incidents considered with a standard explanation of why no charge such as "no contact to head" or "sin bin sufficient" Then a charge is "Grade A" and a quick explanation of why with the usual phrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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