Jimmy B

Mmm - Do Sheffield still only publish “estimated” crowd figures Richard ? serious question I haven’t looked for years.

How much longer is Kendal going to allow Leighs “laying on” and spoiling at the PTB ?

Just out of interest, was last Saturdays Samoa team entirely made up of NRL players ? Genuine question.

The same was probably said about Paris at the birth of Super League.

No Parky it wasn't just a "sit in" by a few fans. Featherstone Rovers held an official ballot on the matter amongst the people who owned the club at the time i.e. the club members. The result was in favour of going it alone.

Wasn't this said by the dinasaurs in 1995 ?

Parky, that figure was pre superleague, pre full time players , pre sky monies, you, and nobody else have any idea as to what average crowd the Rovers would attract should they ever get into SL. What average First Division crowd did Wakefield attract immediately prior to there elevation into the so called "elite" professional ranks ? I'll save you getting your Rothmans out - it was ; - 1994/95 3,438 1993/94 3,822 1992/93 4,505 1991/92 5,022 1991/92 4,848 Hardly way out in front of that figure, quoted by you, presumably, as a reason why Rovers could not make it in SL. How can you assume that the Rovers average gate could not grow as Wakefields have done ? I repeat you have no idea as what crowd Rovers may attract as a Full time professional outfit - and nobody else has either !

Martyn, Would any club who rent a stadium, be automatically allowed to continue using it after entering administration ? Administration means you cannot pay your bills, which would almost certainly include ground rent. Would the owners of a rented ground simply say OK carry on using it and risk further loss of revenue ? Would you say that the position Wakefield are in regarding who owns Belle Vue is preferrable to what we see at Featherstone ? I am confident that the present Rovers BOD have got their fingers firmly on the pulse and would politely suggest they do not need your advice.

Exactly Terry - Why do the rest of Super League Clubs want Bradford to remain in SL (To the point of running the club if necessary) if it isn't to get a slice of that "20,000" crowd when playing Bradford at home ?

Indeed you did. But was the introduction of P & R ever really expected , whenever it was, to dramatically increase crowds and was that the sole purpose for the change ?

Funnily enough I asked the same question only a few days ago !

Too many posts now speculating as to who or who's fans are to blame for the sad incident. As Paul rightly says the police are involved so until concrete evidence appears as to what actually happened the thread is locked.

Moderator notice. A post which accuses Rovers fans of beating up a Halifax fan has been deleted. Please do not make such accusations without concrete proof on this forum.

Whilst I am totally against the elitist mentality that has now become the norm within our game, I am dubious about the sincerity of Mr Smiths comments. It would seem he is a hard man to please. He was very much oppopsed to the promotion of Leigh at the expense of Castleford only a couple of seasons ago, despite their respective fates being decided on the field of play. Something that rang out loud and clear in his YEP columns. Now he is unhappy at the way the granting of licences is being run - with many valid points I might add. Now I don't know if Mr Smith is a Cas fan or not, but I cannot help but feel that his concerns are more influenced by the fact that it would seem Cas are again prime candidates to loose their place in SL, than him having a concern for fair play regarding the awarding of SL Franchises.

Me niether !