ghost of uncle fester

Saw the fax game and boy oh boy the delusion of that commentator is epic,got completely battered 2nd half and ofc that was thalers fault,high shots,thalers fault, incorrect plays,thalers fault,offside,thalers fault ,little mention of the perfectly good try lyodd scored that was disallowed moments before fax went up other end and scored through kavanagh , little mention that Widnes were actually better team in the 1st just didn't execute,fev should win on quality but this is definitely a different Widnes team to past 3yrs,more shape,more structured,better defensively,much bigger team ,rock up like you did against Bradford and you've got major problems

Sorry but people need to get over tee,theirs no conspiracy,no shafting,as in many many cases a SL club has cherry picked out the championship,paid a fairly hefty fee, I don't get the xfiles syndrome people have,he's a saints player,their DR with Swinton , and I'm going to be controversial maybe here but even if he came back theirs no guarantee he'd score shed loads as for me alot of his success was massively helped by having miloudi inside him ,who's of course at London,stop babbling about it and back those in the wing jerseys,all about the now,not the then

Had a tough paper round that fella

Think this is going to be far harder than some people think ,Donny packed with ex SL players, got a massive pack with the likes of matagi,lovodua,pauli pauli,tyla hepi Running threats in likes of Luke briscoe,Craig hall,Reece Lynne ,josh guzdek ,and got a very under rated halfback in Connor Robinson ,Watson boas is still a threat even though he must be about 70 now Very dangerous game as most are in this crazy league but think if can control their pack it'll be another home win

Not really Brad's fault he's playing 6,that's the coach's decision, personally think he'll come good anyway but I would say his best position is at 13,that's where he made his name at Widnes and Wakefield,only when he went to Keighley that he went into the halves ,he was always a classy ball handling loose ,not sure why anyone can say hes worse than Wilko when Brad's not played in what is his best position , nevertheless not quite hit the full straps yet but two consecutive wins

Looked decent against Batley,cant really comment on the other but know few people have said their decent this season(vikings) and got a massive side

Think barrow will win reasonably comfortable tbut they do have some very dangerous players particularly on the edges in the likes of greensmith and whitely and Carr out the back ,saw there game against Batley and at times looked pretty impressive ,I'm going 26-8 ISH

Whether you believe Brad played well or not he won the game n for that he should be applauded

You can only ever beat what's Infront of you,not barrows fault but that's the worst York team I can remember in years,their pure gash for the money spent ,shambles of a club hell bent on spending top end but being bang average at best ,very favourable next two games , onwards and upwards

Certainly winnable game ,for the players they have they seem to under achieve ,got some real quality in like of daggar,keinhorst,lineham n not sure if Richie myler will play as sure he didn't play against Toulouse ,tight game probably in bad conditions,home win for me

Totally get people's frustration and their entitled to be but come on ,two games in,both away to clubs many others will fall at ,this bunch will be absolutely fine ,got no doubt about that,gillam nearing comeback who will add loads of go forward,broady will be back,this teams style of play will flourish once we get dry tracks (yes Widnes is plastic I know) ,tidy up discipline and daft mistakes and only way is up

Brad walker found not guilty,downgraded to a b offence,no ban to serve ,common sense prevails,and nice to see an opposition clubs players back him up

Ah right wasn't sure, looks of crestas recent video there's a chance he might get off with it, apparently comments weren't directed at the officials and is being backed up by Widnes players,but you never know with the disciplinary, probably still find him guilty

Might be more that's just off top of my head

Smith(injured) broadbent (banned)definitely out ,burke possibly,bulman a maybe ,gillam slight chance to be back but according to cresta more likely back for the York game,Brad walker hasn't been dealt with so will play,even if gets a ban it won't kick in till week after

Close game as per but win for me,pretty basic game plan haven but very effective at what they do ,keep the usual suspects quiet like king and doran,good kicking game and turning their pack around continuously n should be fine

Must have said something pretty bad to cop that ,just unbelievably dumb tbh and just affects the team

Think the smith one is a long term sure cresta said was knee ligament,anyone heard out on burke ,looked to me he got KO'd tackling walker low , possibly a leg or thigh in the head ,may be alright for haven game if hia protocol is 10 days ?? I think

Yeah not really a great look for the club when certain individuals are calling a female official a "blind b#tch" among several other names ,wasn't just one person either,think the ref just lost control of the game at one point,even their fans thought the ref was shocking ,wouldn't be so bad but some fan reactions were ridiculous particularly when shawy got judged to have a foot in touch (and he was) but the liner got pelters,think with some people saw it as a banker win after the clubs respective pre seasons and just came off second best ,is what it is ,move on to the next

Agree with this ,as much as I was surprised it was brad this weekend their are certain players who just can't keep their mouths shut during a game , particularly stacky and johnno,fab players and servants to the club but their always in the officials ears and tbh I think that kind of behaviour can spread within the players , unfortunately it's a highly physical game that plays on the emotions especially if you think your getting a bum deal from officials ,live and learn I suppose and hope cresta reads the riot act because all it does is affect their team mates

Think the championship/league one set up is really good especially the super eights concept , personally for the champ to SL it's just a soft return to the dark days of licensing where someone theoretically can gain promotion without topping the league ,always been a believer promotion/relagation should be a gimme for anyone and shouldn't be decided on tiktok or whatever views you get,totally get the idea that their trying to get clubs to improve their outreach but if you win a league you should be promoted end of

Bedwell is a forward,well in union he is which is his background,max I think is a centre/winger

Believe the Costello one was an alleged squirrel grip ,tv bit inconclusive but wardles reaction to what seemed a nothing tackle would suggest something occured, hopefully unproven as I think George Flanagan in recent years copped a big ban for same ,broady probably going to get a ban for striking , similarly I'd imagine Lawton(think it was him) gets banned for a stamp and I think Taylor for contact on greenwood , conditions looked awful and looked like everyone was running around in wellies

Bringing new partners in is always a good thing, especially ones that will most likely bring sizeable investment is even better Well done to all on getting them in board , especially when it's a fella from frizington that could quite easily have invested closer to home Great work from all involved

Hindsights a wonderful thing but on reflection losing johnno and Shane makes the decision to play the game a bad one ,but tbf you can't foresee these things ,is what it is unfortunately